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FW: Maximising research access vs. minimizing copy-editing errors
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- From: "Barbara Meredith" <bmeredith@publishers.org>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:37:11 EDT
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Scholarly publishers of peer-reviewed journals add value in the course of investing in the oversight of the process of expert peer review, and the consequent association of a journal's brand and reputation (including "rank" by measures such as ISI Impact Factor) with an author's work. That is transformative value for the author, who can leverage the published work as proof that the research conducted was judged to be sufficiently authoritative and significant as to merit additional grant funding or other recognition. The additional value that is added by scientific publishers who undertake copyediting, proofreading, formatting, and dissemination in print and online (with adherence to bibliographic and online linking standards that enable reliable archiving and discovery)is added primarily for the benefit of the customer and reader, but is also a service to the author. Publishers do thereby enhance also the accuracy of scientific communications, as well as provide for information dissemination and archiving in a fashion that adheres to library and industry standards. Barbara J. Meredith Vice President Professional/Scholarly Publishing Association of American Publishers, Inc. 71 Fifth Avenue, 2nd Floor New York, NY 10003 USA Tel: 1-212-255-0200 X223 Fx: 1-212-255-7007 bmeredith@publishers.org www.pspcentral.org www.publishers.org -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] Janellyn P Kleiner Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Maximising research access vs. minimizing copy-editing errors It is not my intent to be argumentative. I just want some answers and examples because, in my experience, it most DEFINITELY is NOT a fact that the paper accepted differs in content from the paper published, other than print format, UNLESS the editor is accepting inferior papers. The only difference that I've experienced in my published papers was a change in a title ONCE which, frankly, I thought was presumptuous on the journal editor's part and not as accurate regarding the paper's content. I have decades of experience in journalism/masscomm/writing/publishing even PR as well as a library/information science degree. I started out in junior high, continued through high school & college, then as a newspaper reporter, and have edited/published for my university and for the American Library Assn. Demands from my husband & children got me into librarianship because I was never home while in the business world (but I was so stunned by the way libraries did business that I resigned 3 times my first year from the academic library where I was Head of Circulation). I've adjusted and am now Associate Dean at an ARL library but my commercial background still rears its head at times. The diffences in the business world & academia are drastic & even today, there are times that I'm still appalled at the 'goings-on' in the scholarly world. The articles coming across my desk in this career that needed substantive changes or 'appeared' to include inaccuracies were rejected with the exceptions of some conference proceedings that couldn't be rejected and they did need LOTs of editing help. I've also been invited to apply for the editor positions of College & Research Libraries and RQ/RUSA Quarterly and refused due to time constraints. I'm providing this history because I want you to know that my interests & curiousity are real and I'm not sniping at anyone. I'd just like some answers that may blow holes in my current opinion that scholarly publishing is the most profitable venture going in the world of publishing. Some of my scientist friends have told me they need help from editors but the help needed is simplistic -- grammar, spelling, sentence structure, minor changes that any literate colleague could provide. It wasn't that they didn't have the skills, they didn't want to spend their time basically editing their own articles because it took them away from their labs. You see I've been intrigued (or horrified) by scholarly publishing from the time I learned they paid page charges in many of the sciences to get published -- four decades ago -- and it was not inexpensive. Since I formerly wrote for a living, I went into shock about paying to be published (pure vanity press methods to me) to be followed by further shock when I learned that I was NOT getting paid by College & Research Libraries for the article my library director had asked me to do. Any other time, I'd have known the payment status in advance but I was simply doing him a favor and expecting to earn a few bucks on ths side. Little did I know. To this day, I still think authors of papers should be paid. Yes, it's part of tenure & promotion and I've made it to the Professor rank myself, but I do not think it's good practice for academicians. Unfortunately, most have not been that interested after gaining promotion & tenure until recent journal prices skyrocketed and began to threaten their research library collections. I do know the difference between copy editing and proof reading, the latter often done by the author when he/she is provided the proof. In many scientific journals, copy editors do NOT have a scientific background equivalent to the researcher. How can they 'pick up serious errors' other than house style, grammar, etc. Journal editors, when confronted, gloss over explaining their 'value-added' arguments claiming they are not really the point. They ARE the point in view of the horrendous prices some publishers charge universities for journals that could not exist without papers submitted by the universities' researchers. And, who supports the researchers? The very institutions charged outragious subscription fees for papers jointly supported by their institutions and funding agencies so it is VERY important to have journals' editing tasks and value-added activities enumerated and justified. I truly do not mean to be argumentative but it would be a welcome change to get some straight answers. Please provide some justification for these claims, or at least examples of the kind of substantive changes made by journal editors. To me, the only added value I have seen, & it's a superb addition, is the linking of references to the full-text articles. That truly is a service but it's a mechanical one. I have a couple of colleagues, both scientists, who serve as editors and are well-paid for having their names listed as editors, but they can't justify the 'value-added' arguments made by the publishers of their work. I'm very curious about this. Could some of the editors on this listserv provide those answers please? They may help those of us advocating open access to better understand why so many editors of scholarly publishing oppose it -- other than financial gain. Jane Kleiner Associate Dean of Libraries for Collection Services The LSU Libraries Louisiana State University E-Mail: jkleiner@lsu.edu
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