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Re: Secret pricing (RE: Response from Ted Bergstrom to Ann Okerson)
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- Subject: Re: Secret pricing (RE: Response from Ted Bergstrom to Ann Okerson)
- From: Phil Davis <pmd8@cornell.edu>
- Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:37:10 EST
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Rick Anderson wrote: "Which, if you think about it [confidential pricing], is really pretty silly." Not really. Confidential pricing allows for price discrimination to take place (the charging of different prices to different customers based on their ability or willingness to pay). Price discrimination is practiced because it leads to a more efficient market and greater profits to the producer than charging a uniform price to all customers. It is normally practiced in markets where the producer has some monopoly power, which means that the customer cannot substitute one product or service for another. To answer Rick's question, how would Library A be lead to believe that it was getting a better deal than everyone else under the cloak of price confidentiality? The answer is *discounting*. In most states, hotels are required to post daily rate on the back of your hotel room door. This is "list price" and no one ever pays it. Everyone always pays a much reduced price, and because you don't know what the person in the next room paid, you come to the conclusion that your bargain $99/night room was a great deal, as long as you don't find out that the guy next door was charged $69/night. In the same way, most of the big publishers set "list prices" for their journals, and almost no libraries ever pay that price. Anyone who has been involved in negotiating for serials packages also knows that the first deal on the table proposed by publishers is never the one that is accepted. In sum, Rick's hypothetical scenario where everyone believes they are getting a good deal in world of confidential pricing is achieved by a combination of price discrimination and discounting. --Phil Davis At 05:50 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
> In the same way, librarians are reluctant to share pricing information > (and willfully accept confidentiality clauses) if they believe if they > are getting a "good deal" from the publishers. Which, if you think about it, is really pretty silly. If we all agree to keep our pricing secret, how does any individual library know that it's getting a better-than-average deal? It seems equally likely that you're getting a worse-than-average deal. After all, everyone can't get a better deal than everyone else; if Library A is getting an artificially low price, then somewhere there's a Library B whose price is higher than it would have been if the pricing were standardized and publicly known. Sales reps want us all to think that we're the Library A, of course -- but if prices are secret, we have no way of knowing that we're not actually the Library B. ---- Rick Anderson Dir. of Resource Acquisition University of Nevada, Reno Libraries rickand@unr.edu
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