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Re: Taking Our Academic Medicine
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- Subject: Re: Taking Our Academic Medicine
- From: "Lisa Dittrich" <lrdittrich@aamc.org>
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:53:58 EST
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A (late) follow-up from me--I've been at our annual meeting and am just catching up on e-mails. I stand corrected on the two listings; I was, indeed, mistaken about that and I apologize. However, please note that Hanley and Belfus is now owned by Elsevier and LWW is owned by Wolters Kluwer Health. You've switched them around. Also, I don't think Springer has any affiliation at all with Wolters Kluwer Health. Part of the reason Academic Medicine comes out so well in the cost-effectiveness equation is that we have never even come close to operating in the black. While I don't want to gouge subscribers, wouldn't it be nice if we could actually cover our costs? Lisa Dittrich Managing Editor Academic Medicine lrdittrich@aamc.org (e-mail) Academic Medicine's Web site: www.academicmedicine.org >>> alison@arl.org 11/04/05 6:12 PM >>> Ted Bergstrom and Preston McAfee asked me to forward this letter to the list in response to the message posted yesterday. Alison Buckholtz SPARC ____ Lisa Dittrich, the managing editor of Academic Medicine ommented on our open letter to university presidents and provosts found at http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Journal/OpenLetter.pdf and our website on journal cost-effectiveness which is located at http://www.journalprices.com/ She says that our ... journal prices website... lists our journal.. (Academic Medicine).. as "for profit," lists the wrong publisher, and lists it twice, with two different ISSNs and two different "composite price indexes." We have looked into this. We try hard to get our facts straight and we welcome corrections. As far as we can tell, the claim that we reported two different ISSN's for Academic Medicine is simply mistaken. There is only one listing for the journal "Academic Medicine." Perhaps Ms Dittrich was confused by the listing for a different journal "Academic Emergency Medicine" which is owned by a different society and (quite appropriately) has a different ISSN number. The issue of for-profit status and who is the publisher is more complex. Academic Medicine is the official journal of a non-profit society, the Association of American Medical Colleges. It recently changed publishers from Hanley & Belfus (now owned by Springer-Kluwer) to Lippincott, Williams, & Wilkins (which is now owned by Elsevier). We used the 2002 Journal Performance Index figures for the publisher name, and hence we had the former name. Our understanding from correspondence with Ms Dittrich is that the Society still owns the journal and controls its pricing, but contracts distribution and some other services to Lippincott, Williams, and Wilkins. While most of the large professional societies publish under their own names, we are aware that many societies own their own journals and control their pricing but contract with commercial publishers for distribution. It is difficult to determine accurately which of the journals that the ISI and Ulrich's list as published by commercial publishers fall into this category. Many journals that are listed as affiliated with societies are actually owned by commercial publishers who control subscription prices. Our policy is that unless we have convincing information to the contrary, we classify the journal as for-profit if the publisher recorded by the ISI Journal Performance Index is a for-profit firm. We have changed our listing to record Academic Medicine as non-profit and published by the AAMC. If we receive other verifiable reports that a journal that we have listed as for-profit is owned and controlled by a non-profit organization, we will be happy to make the appropriate changes. Ms Dittrich says: "we are a non-profit journal, that is NOT based in a university and that is published by a for-profit publisher--how does that fit into the neat good and evil equation" She apparently misunderstands our purposes. We have no interest in a "neat good and evil equation" and it is certainly not our intention to classify non-profit publishers as "good" and for-profits as "evil". We are interested in helping librarians and university administrators to understand which journals are providing scholarly information in a cost-effective way and which are not. Indeed our data shows that Academic Medicine is an extremely good bargain. Our measure of cost-effectiveness shows its relative cost to be about 1/5 of the average of all non-profit journals in its disciplines. Sincerely, Ted Bergstrom Preston McAfee
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