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Re: Article downloads lower?
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- Subject: Re: Article downloads lower?
- From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 15:19:55 EDT
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Fred, May I make a suggestion? You are giving altogether too much weight to the IOPP download datum, even as you express your reservations about it. Your message is: "Who says the reduced downloads were because of Arxiv? Maybe they happened for some other reason." But the trouble with that is that it implies that if the download reductions *were* systematically correlated with (hence caused by) Arxiv downloads, then that would somehow represent a problem, and would somehow constitute evidence for something else: But what else? Of course the availability of a self-archived version will reduce downloads of the journal version -- *especially* in physics, where there is a special "Arxiv Advantage" in citations, over and above the Open Access citation Advantage itself: Even articles in Open Access Journals (as the Journal of High Energy Physics was in its first 3 years), or articles in journals to which users may have institutional access, tend to be preferentially consulted online via Arxiv, just because so many other articles are consulted via Arxiv. http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/29-guid.html What certainly does not follow from that is what ALPSP have been trying to argue, which is that this somehow constitutes evidence of present or future *cancellations* of IOPP journals. Please see Tim Brody's posting today on AmSci about the simple and obvious solution of pooling repository and publisher stats so as to properly credit all downloads to the journal in which the article was published, using OpenURL, so librarians don't come to the wrong conclusion from the incomplete publisher website download counts that the journal is no longer of use! No special pleading is needed to explain away or apologize for the reduce IOPP website downloads. They are most probably due to increased use of the Arxiv version. And IOPP have found the right remedy: They are mirroring Arxiv at the IOPP website. That way they can already start claiming credit for some of the many access-paths by which their content is being actively used (since Arxiv has about 15 mirrors!). Pooled stats will not be long coming too. Cheers, Stevan PS The reason IOPP are registering reduced download counts, 14 years down the road, rather than when Arxiv first started, is because download counting is more recent, and getting ever more accurate. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:13:05 EDT From: "FrederickFriend" <ucylfjf@ucl.ac.uk> Reply-To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Article downloads lower? It would assist us all in understanding the effect of free repository content if publishers could make available their download statistics for articles for which a free repository copy exists. It may then be possible to compare the publisher statistics with the download statistics for the equivalent repository copy. I have no reason to doubt IOPP's statement (from Ken Lillywhite to Lis-e-journals on 5 September) that "article downloads from our site are significantly lower for those journals whose content is substantially replicated in the arXiv repository than for those which are not", but with all due respect to IOPP the lower downloads could be due to factors other than the existence of an arXiv copy. Clearly download statistics do vary between journals even when no repository copy exists, and the time-line for downloads is also a significant factor. If public positions are to be based upon such statistics, as when publishers base resistance to repository deposit upon lower downloads from their own sites, we need to be sure that the statistical base is firm. The point is often made that we need more evidence of the effects of changes in scholarly communication, and JISC and other organizations have been gathering evidence. Making download statistics available for examination alongside download statistics from repositories would be one way in which publishers could work with the academic community in gathering evidence about the effect of repositories. Frederick J. Friend JISC Consultant OSI Open Access Advocate Honorary Director Scholarly Communication UCL E-mail ucylfjf@ucl.ac.uk
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