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Re: Results of the NIH Plan
- To: <heatherm@eln.bc.ca>
- Subject: Re: Results of the NIH Plan
- From: "Peter Banks" <pbanks@diabetes.org>
- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:49:57 EDT
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Heather: We deal with clinical medicine. That includes publishing drug dosages, reference ranges for clinical tests, etc. I have no intention of humiliating authors. I do intend to warn the public that the ADA cannot attest to the accuracy of details in the version of the manuscript over which we have no control. This is not to say that the author is careless, intentionally or otherwise. It is to acknowledge that manuscript submission and file conversion is imperfect and to warn the reader that no copyeditor or proofreader has double checked the information in the post-print. It would be negligent to do anything to the contrary--and I frankly think it is irresponsible of any institutional repository not to include such disclaimers. I think it would be wise to consult an attorney before embarking on the reckless course your endorse. We have absolutely no intention of changing ADA's disclaimer. I posted our data as one anecdotal case study, and I do not pretend it is anything more than that. I hope other publishers will add their experience, and that scholarly publishing societies can rigorously analyze the data. I would point out, however, that our preliminary data is consistent with NIH's own (see: http://www.nihms.nih.gov/). If anything, it appears that compliance is decreasing, not increasing. There are a few spikes in submissions, which probably represent authors dumping older papers, but interest in the project seems to have dwindled in recent months. Peter >>> Heather Morrison <heatherm@eln.bc.ca> 09/15/05 3:13 PM >>> Thanks, Peter - Your instructions for authors, on the URL you list below, says: [snip] Post-prints must include the following statement of provenance and, once the final version has been published in the journal, a link to the final published version of the paper on the journal's Web site: "This is an author-created, uncopyedited electronic version of an article accepted for publication in Diabetes (http:// diabetes.diabetesjournals.org). The American Diabetes Association (ADA), publisher of Diabetes, is not responsible for any errors or omissions in this version of the manuscript or any version derived from it by third parties. The definitive publisher-authenticated version is available online at [URL]." The version of the manuscript deposited or posted must be identical to the final accepted version, with the exception of the above statement. Please note that authors are not permitted to deposit, post, or later substitute the final published version of the manuscript for the post- print. [snip] If authors are reluctant to post articles with this message in PMC, could it be because they consider it humiliating to have to add this statement? If ADA is interested in a sincere experiment to find out whether authors are interested in complying with the NIH policy, then it is essential to ensure that authors have a final copy which does not require any such statement. Can you provide a copy of the acceptance letter as well? If you are presenting this as scientific data, you need to present your methodology. best - Heather Morrison
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