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Administrivia: liblicense-l digest difficulties
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- Subject: Administrivia: liblicense-l digest difficulties
- From: Liblicense-L Listowner <liblicen@pantheon.yale.edu>
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:37:10 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear Liblicense-L Readers: One reader today wrote as follows, and since his question arises every few weeks or months, let's repeat the posting from February on this topic. Several folks who had digest problems reported success when effecting the change suggested below. Sincerely, Ann Okerson/Moderator ____ "In the past couple of weeks, I am receiving the digest form of liblicense that are missing attachments. The Topics list for today, for example, shows 6 topics. However, only the first topic message is attached to the email. Has anyone else who receives digests mentioned this? Can you test this?" Thanks very much, Larry Alexander" **** Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:01:26 EST From: Ann Okerson <ann.okerson@yale.edu> Reply-To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Administrivia: liblicense-l digest difficulties Dear Subscribers: See below the message about digest subscriptions, which is being re-sent (yet again). If you have or are contemplating a digest subscription to this list, you'll want to be sure that your settings are exactly right or you will miss certain messages -- they'll be blank or incorrect; and then you'll write to us and ask us to take care of the problem for you -- and we can't do it. Only you can! **Also, please please remember to send messages to the list ONLY as plain text. A number of mailers are generating either heavily encoded messages or attachments -- when they arrive in the moderator's queue, they're often not decipherable or decipherable only if I work thru them word by word and try to turn them into plain text. Or the messages are arriving in double versions: one version that is close to plain text and needs only light cleanup and another that's heavily tagged and needs to be deleted in its entirety. I'm starting to have to return more and more of these to the senders.** Thank you, and here's the digest message again. BTW, I don't recommend the digest option -- it's been too problematic for too many, but it does exist. Sincerely, Ann Okerson __ Dear liblicense-l readers: Some of you have experienced difficulty in reading the contents of digests. For example, some messages may not appear even though they are listed as being part of the digest. Here's what is happening: Unless you specify otherwise, list digests are sent as MIME attachments with an email message which contains the table of contents. These attachments may not always be readable. They may be stripped or held up by intervening servers after being sent. Also - some email clients, because of the way they are set, may not display attachments, may require you to open them in different way, or may strip them on their own. For example, Outlook 2002 <www.microsoft.com/office/outlook/evaluation/security.asp> is one client that has been redesigned to do this in response to complaints about email borne computer viruses, which are carried as attachments. In other words - everyone is sent the content they request, but how they receive it depends upon how it is transmitted after leaving Yale, and what you are using to receive and read it. Obviously neither the list owners, the list administrator, nor you can control what happens between points on the Internet. However the Internet is not a quiet pond. Servers change, routes change, protocols change, conventions change. For that matter - the ways that people compose and send messages change as well. Just because you were able to do something yesterday, does not mean that you will be able to do it today, even though neither we nor you have changed our respective systems or habits. There are about 3000 persons subscribed to this list. Most of you will probably not have to do anything. Only those of you who experience difficulty with digests should try one of these two solutions to work around whatever is interfering with them. What to do: All Liblicense-L email is caught by a streaming email reader and presented in searchable form on the web at- www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/index.shtml 1) If you want to be able to send to the list, read responses, and not worry about receiving list mail, bookmark <www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/index.shtml> and then send simple plain text email to the listproc server to turn off receiving email from the list (this email must have no HTML, nothing in the subject line, and nor extra words or comments such as a signature) EXAMPLE: from: demeter@earthshaker.com to: listproc@lists.yale.edu subject: [LEAVE THIS BLANK] set LIBLICENSE-L mail postpone ** 2) If you prefer to continue receiving list digests directly, you can tell are server not to send them as MIME attachments _ from: demeter@earthshaker.com to: listproc@lists.yale.edu subject: [LEAVE THIS BLANK] set LIBLICENSE-L mail digest-nomime ** This should cause you to receive plain text digests. Those of you who elect the first option of reading the web are taking a step into the future. To large degree, mailing lists and mailing list managers are an older limited technology. One of the reasons for some problems people have observed is that this way of handling messages is becoming less compatible with new ways that the world is using to conduct business. In a few years time - lists will probably be superseded by web portals or other technology that will allow people to subscribe to, interact with, and exchange data faster, more securely, and more effectively. This element of change, while frustrating at times, is part of the mechanism of the world we participate in. Some people in the 19th century had a nice sense of the nature of change: ###
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