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RE: AAP/Google in Chronicle of Higher Education
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- Subject: RE: AAP/Google in Chronicle of Higher Education
- From: "Bolick, Bob" <Bob_Bolick@mcgraw-hill.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:38:31 EDT
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Gentlemen -- At MH, we've been working in a similar vein in the textbook domain (Primis custom publishing online), AccessScience (medical reference and texts), AccessScience (encyclopedia of science and technology), and, more recently, the Digital Engineering Library, where we have assigned DOIs to chapters of a large selection of our engineering handbooks. Many of the same books going into the DEL are also covered by our arrangement with Google in the Google Print program. So as indicated before, as publishers, we are not merely cheering on innovation, we are participating in it. And as indicated before, in pursuing that digital world, we want to see all stakeholders benefit in an environment and approach that respect folks' rights. And Chuck, I agree 100% with your concern about the value (and fate) of academic books and monographs. Their market is not getting any easier, and book publishers, authors, universities, and libraries need to continue to put their shoulders behind approaches such as Toby's, that of the National Academy of Sciences, and that of Columbia's history monographs project. Google's search technology, DOIs, OpenURLs, semantic search are just some of the tools in the bag of tricks available to us. For a good read on the situation, I recommend John B. Thompson's recent book "Books in the Digital Age" (Polity). Now I wonder if that is available, discoverable, and searchable in a digital form? ;-) Cheers, BobB Robert Bolick Vice President Global Business Planning McGraw-Hill Education 2 Penn Plaza, 25th Floor, New York, NY 10121 (O) 212.904.5934 (M) 646.431.8121 IM: bobb@nexus.eppg.com IM: b6b2y@aol.com Internet ID: http://dx.doi.org/10.1570/b01b01b -----Original Message----- From: Toby.GREEN@oecd.org [mailto:Toby.GREEN@oecd.org] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:44 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: RE: AAP/Google in Chronicle of Higher Education Thanks for your posting. I've just returned from SSP in Boston exceedingly depressed and disappointed by the book publishing community represented there. I had hoped to learn some new tricks to help us improve our e-books offer - but instead found myself preaching and teaching disbelieving book publishers about what we've been doing since 2000. Much of what we are doing is along the lines of what you advocate, in particular a move to chapter-based publishing. At OECD we publish around 150 books annually. In January 2001 we launched an e-library containing all our books published since 1998. To begin with they were only available as a single PDF file. In 2003 we started to break some of the books into chapters, as well as offer the complete file. Our aim was to enable the various discovery tools find an individual chapter - just as they find individual articles in journals. In fact, we are using an e-journal platform to publish our e-books because we couldn't find an affordab! le and flexible e-book platform to do the job. And why did we take this step? Because we didn't want our books to be drowned out by e-journal articles! The results are impressive. In 2000 we had around a core set of 250 libraries worldwide buying >60% of our books. Today we have 550 libraries worldwide with online access to 100% our books - an impressive growth in reach and accessibility. Around 200 of these libraries still choose to buy a print collection. Downloads of our books started slowly, I think because users didn't expect to find books online so weren't looking for them. We also didn't have a persistent linking system in place making it hard for librarians to link from their OPACs. In 2003 this changed, we launched our (persistent) EasyLinks and downloads took off. Last year we delivered more e-books (or e-chapters) than we did printed books for the first time. Usage levels are on a par with our e-journals, so you are quite correct - if book content is delivered in an e-journal-like way usage does increase. This positive message is one I'm trying to get across to specialist book publishers - but they seem to find it difficult to accept that an e-journal model works very well indeed for scholarly monographs. Our business model is just like e-journals: i.e. multiple-simultaneous access; no DRM (we deliver standard PDF files); IP access; remote access; walk-in usage; licence to include excerpts in course packs; e-ILLm - in short, a licence to use our content as much and as frequently as possible! [For any book publisher reading this, you may be interested to know that our print sales between 2001 - 2004 declined at a similar rate to the previous three-year period but, following a change to the way we promote our books (and having had some better titles!) they have increased a little since Nov 2004! Clearly, delivering standard, unprotected PDF files is not destroying demand for print.] We've learned that e-books can't be handled exactly like e-journals, but the discovery principles are the same. We are trying to improve our systems so that the various discovery systems (Google, Google Scholar, Scopus, etc) will find our content easily, and the introduction of an OpenURL system due in 2006 will be another step to making access easier still. I agree with you that efforts need to be made to improve indexing systems - but importantly I think they need to be compatible with e-journal indexing systems because in our experience readers couldn't care if the content they need comes from a book or a journal. Books are not easy to break into chapters. We've tried to find ways to automate our production process so we can break them into chapters easily. The problem is rooted in a book's structure - lots have a hierarchical organisation (Part/Section/Chapter) so at what level(s) should they be broken? So far we've failed to find an automatic process and continue to break them manually at the end of the production process. We've had to persuade our authors to provide abstracts for each chapter (or part or section), something we thought would be difficult, but actually came readily. We've had to work on the chapter titles so they make sense when seen out of context with the book in search engine results. Some short books don't lend themselves to be broken up, so we leave these complete. Despite doing all this, and providing our EasyLinks, we're discovering that many librarians are not making the links to their OPACs. We're planning to introduce downloadable MARC 21 records in 2006 to make this task easier for librarians, but it doesn't seem to be a standard reflex for some cataloguers to make the link - I'm sure this will change over time. Another oddity we've learned is this. Ask a librarian what they want and they'll say they want the ability to pick and choose book-by-book. This presents a huge challenge for publishers since it really means that some intermediary will have to offer this service (just as in the print world). This takes control of the way the books are presented and marketed out of the hands of publishers (and because we couldn't find an intermediary who could provide the service we wanted, we did our own thing). Yet, as you will have understood from our sales figures, a great many librarians have acted differently and subscribed to all our books. The bulk subscription model sounds a lot like a books 'big deal', but the benefits seem attractive to a lot of librarians. We are now moving to offer our books via the e-books vendors to meet the needs of librarians who don't want all our books - but I think there's room for both the big books deal as well. Perhaps librarians need to start thinking ! more carefully about this model if they really want to work with publishers - without it, you'll have to work with intermediaries. The intellectual property question is one that puzzles me. I understand that problems may exist when Google scans books from libraries since the copyright owner is not involved. But, if it leads to greater chances of discovery I think publishers will learn to appreciate the benefits. The trouble is that it will take time for the benefits to become apparent and in the meantime everything may get bogged down with lawyers. As for Google Print, where publishers and Google are working together, here we might be able to see if greater discovery leads to greater usage (and sales). My feeling is that for most higher-priced monographs greater sales isn't really what will happen. Why? Because most Google users are in a hurry and want access now - if they can't get it they'll move on. Also, and more significantly, most readers of scholarly monographs have little or no purchasing power - so connecting from Google Print to online bookshops is not the ideal situation, the link, as you sug! gest, should also be to library systems via Open URLs (just like Google Scholar links to e-journals). But that's of little use unless librarians are making the connections to e-books and if e-books remain poorly presented by the aggregators. Our next steps will be to enable reference linking from our books (via CrossRef et al - which will also mean other e-publishers will be able to link into our e-books when they are cited!); to further extend our StatLink service (whereby we offer links to Excel files that underly the charts and graphs in our books; to improve our indexing and search service; to continue to push our metadata out to other channels to improve discoverability; to launch an RSS service. I just wish some more book publishers would join us in doing all this, it's fun and it works! Toby Green Head of Dissemination and Marketing OECD Publishing Public Affairs and Communications Directorate http://www.oecd.org/Bookshop http://www.SourceOECD.org - our award-winning e-library http://www.oecd.org/OECDdirect - our new title alerting service
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