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Re: AAP/Google in Chronicle of Higher Education
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- From: JBedord@aol.com
- Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:15:39 EDT
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Chuck, thank you for your thoughtful post. As an adjunct faculty member teaching online searching at SJSU School of Library and Information Science, in addition to being an industry analyst, "findability" is indeed a crucial issue. >From my viewpoint, the abysmally low usage of traditional scholarly books is directly related to the lack of indexing of the content in a meaningful way, as well as complete text indexing. When I give my distance learning students assignments to find information on topics, I make them explore the aggregated article databases and the full text databases, using both structured indexing and full text searching approaches....they are amazed by the variety of online information available on both free web and commercial services. Unfortunately, at this point, finding book content is still stuck in the print era, and that is problematic for those of us trying to educate our students on authoritative sources in an electronic environment. Book publishers need to look at what is happenning with journal publishers. This spring I heard speakers from Wiley, Elsevier, and Nature saying that their traffic from Google now exceeds traffic from PubMed, and that's a major revenue opportunity. Indexing and aggregating does cost money, so there are real advantages to having third parties provide that service. We went through the publisher syndrome of "online might cannibalize print" fears years ago with journals, and found that online increased the market for both online AND print, by opening up new revenue channels. The old days of index only databases went by the wayside, first with abstracted databases, and then with full text. Today's scholars and students EXPECT to be able to search full text, and will simply will not find content buried in print silos. It's time for book publishers to get in tune with their readers, who after all, will drive purchases, either individually or through their institutions. (Librarians would love to see usage of books in their collections increase!) For more insight on the dynamics of the environment today, I recommend reading "The Long Tail" in Wired magazine, October 2004: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html . Why shouldn't book content become as ubiquitous as video and and music in reaching new audiences? Warm regards, Jean Bedord Consultant, Senior Analyst Shore Communications Inc. email: jbedord@shore.com Phone: 408.257.9221 Fax: 408.252.8078 http://www.shore.com In a message dated 6/23/2005 7:52:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cahamake@email.uncc.edu writes: Bob, I'm probably as worried as a librarian can be about the future of the monograph (no matter what format). Book publishers have been extremely slow in my opinion, to innovate. I WANT books especially scholarly books, to survive. What they do can't be done in journal articles i.e. the multiperspective, the careful development of complex concepts, the pulling together of an extended informed presentation on the author's topic. This form of entering into public debate and consciousness is not duplicated by the article. [SNIP] So I think these two approaches: First: better accessibility from existing tools like catalogs, amazon and other indexes ala the Open URL structure or fixed URL structure--a purely technical approach linking at the chapter level everywhere a chapter is mentioned in sales and finding tools. (including indexing and abstracting sources the commonly include books) Second: Massive full text indexing, with enough "context" to let individuals know if they need to go "get" the book wherever that is(in lieu perhaps of abstracts?) The constructive approach I would suggest, is to work with google to link from the google "print" -actually dumb-print-version to the full text version at publisher or vendor controlled, metered or subscribed site. Is that happening? If it is I haven't heard about it. The whole library and vendor and publisher community has had to be engaged to create Open URL linking. Why not see if google can support some sort of standard for linking into non-functional books to functional e-book linking. They are building the master index (that is what they do) with their scanning, why not use it to link to the "official" copy or copies that individuals can actually "use"? So again, I see the scanning as something other than "scanning" but in this instance it looks to me like indexing. Scanning the whole item to provide a "free" index for publishers and book readers and users seems to me in the best interest of everyone concerned. Journal publishers don't opt out of journal indexes, because they know it enhances their journal sales. Why wouldn't the same thing be true of whole book indexing? Chuck Hamaker Associate University Librarian Collections and Technical Services Atkins Library University of North Carolina Charlotte Charlotte, NC 28223 phone 704 687-2825
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