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Re: Revision to Physical Review B data
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- Subject: Re: Revision to Physical Review B data
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- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:50:48 EDT
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On Apr 19, 2005, at 9:12 PM, Heather Morrison wrote:
BioMedCentral charges just over $500, last I heard, and Optics Express under $500 (for short articles). These are both real publishers in the relatively expensive-to-produce STM arena; I'm not sure what the costs per article are in other areas such as humanities, but I'm sure there are very efficient operations due to the fact they simply have to make do with less revenue.
My understanding is that they make do with a loss (not just less revenue). BMC has other journals that are more expensive (as noted by Diane Carroll) and last I heard, $500 was mostly a theoretical target price that would be achievable only in the long run. Optics Express is subsidized by OSA out of its other revenues as far as I know (same for IOP's New Journal of Physics). Not good examples. Even PLoS Biology doesn't make ends meet solely based on the author charges they collect - they use other outside funding (e.g., the Moore Foundation) to fill the gap.
PRB is a high-end, highly prolific STM journal. David is right in pointing out that there are publishers with much greater profit margins; PRB does not represent the worst-case scenario. However, PRB does not represent the best-case scenario, either. As noted in an earlier posting, assuming David's numbers in Online on the Journal of Insect Science are correct, then a group of 500 libraries could support this journal as open access for $84 annually each; far less than making even one author payment, no matter how reasonable, and far less than one average subscription for a biology title.
Does the avg. biology journal only publish 50 articles per year? It really doesn't make sense to me to read too much into a journal that only publishes 50 papers per year (a journal that is largely subsidized by being embedded in the wider university setting). We publish PRST-AB, make it available for free (with a fully functional interface including reference linking) because it is sponsored by 10 accelerator labs (http://prst-ab.aps.org/help/sponsors.html). But even so, it gets a great deal of subsidy just by being embedded in the larger APS journal operation. Regards, Mark Mark Doyle Assistant Director, Journal Information Systems The American Physical Society firstname.lastname@example.org