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Re: Surveys, self-archiving, and what authors want to do
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- From: Janellyn P Kleiner <jkleiner@lsu.edu>
- Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:32:49 EST
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Since this question is not going to be resolved any time soon, why don't we open discussion on some other OA matters posed in this CHE article that I believe has been cited here before: http://chronicle.com/prm/weekly/v51/i24/24b01301.htm If institutions require faculty to post their articles or deposit them in their or another repository, they will do it. If it becomes part of "publish or perish", there will be nothing to debate. Without some solid reasons for contributing to OA repositories, it's possible many won't bother ---- unless we who participate in some small way in scholarly publishing begin to market OA agressively. And, explore other aspects of OA. Or, even better, develop a reasonable alternative to OA. Frankly, other than the fact that journal publishing is a rather important industry, I really don't see the need for scholarly journals in the near future. And I'm speaking not only as a librarian but as a former journalist with undergraduate/graduate degrees and practical experience in mass communication. The decrease in newspapers and in large circulation magazines saddens me, but electronic publishing is faster & cheaper from a business point of view. You don't need the number of people or natural resources needed for print. It also requires a fraction of the physical space and space is becoming increasingly valuable with growing populations. We look to journals as a model because that's our tradition. What about electronic "communities of scholars" replacing journals? Article-based scholar communities. This is being explored successfully in a few of the sciences but there's still resistance to that concept -- some valid some not. My only excuse for such ideas is that I've always been something of a futurist with more interest in what's ahead than clinging to traditions or the past. There are some interesting questions in the CHE article. I toss those out as some avenues worthy of discussion. Any other alternatives? Jane Kleiner Associate Dean of Libraries for Collection Services The LSU Libraries Louisiana State University Baton Rouge, LA 70803 Phone: 225-578-2217 Fax: 225-578-6825 E-Mail: jkleiner@lsu.edu Stevan Harnad <harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk>@lists.yale.edu on 02/24/2005 02:20:02 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu cc: (bcc: Janellyn P Kleiner/jkleiner/LSU) Subject: Re: Surveys, self-archiving, and what authors want to do On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 cmorgan@wiley.co.uk wrote: > Alma Swan may claim that the survey is rigorous and meaningful, but its > objectivity is rather undermined by the following introductory sentence: > > "Studies show that open access increases the impact of - and number of > citations to - work made accessible in this way." > > Even if we set aside the contentiousness of the statement, it surely has > no place in an introduction to an objective survey of authors' attitudes > since it is leading the witness. > > If you are asking for someone's opinion about something, surely you > don't start off by making any claims as to the positive (or negative) > aspects of the issue that you are surveying? > > Cliff Morgan, Chair, Serial Publishers Executive > Academic and Professional Division of the Publishers Association Very interesting observation. To see the how Cliff Morgan's vested interests and wishful thinking might just be influencing his own objectivity on the subject of surveys, consider the following (with apologies for putting such a lurid turn on it, but sometimes it's necessary in order to shake people into thinking seriously): If one were doing a survey on the actual *practises* of smokers, as well as their *attitudes* towards those facts (not their opinions as to what those facts might be!), would one be undermining the objectivity of one's survey by introducing it as arising from the *fact* that smoking causes lung cancer? As to the "contentiousness" of the statement that open access increases impact, I suggest that Cliff have a good look at the growing number of empirical studies of this phenomenon, all of which agree on the outcome. That is better than to bury one's head in the sand, and hope the facts will go away, or that researchers can and should be kept in pristine ignorance of them as long as possible (as I don't doubt the tobacco companies would have quite liked to do, in the name of objectivity, as well as not undermining opinions with facts): Bibliography of OA Advantage Data http://opcit.eprints.org/oacitation-biblio.html Stevan Harnad
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