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RE: Librarians, Publishing Behavior, & Open Access
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- Subject: RE: Librarians, Publishing Behavior, & Open Access
- From: "David Goodman" <David.Goodman@liu.edu>
- Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:08:42 EST
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When I considered price increases as a selector, I generally looked at two different statistics, both together with the history of previous increases 1) the % of price increase 2) the value in $ of the increase In terms of the overall result in balancing the budget, it's obvious that the 2nd factor would have the greatest impact in any one year, but I looked at both in order not to ignore the publishers with lower priced journals and a history of prices such as $100, $120, $125, $150. Over the years they add up, and many is the unworthy low priced journal that escaped cancellation by virtue of being priced below the attention point. At this point, there was no standard--no level which we could say: if the publisher exceeded this, it was no much. (The double digit value was just a convenient way of talking--if it's 10% or higher it is certainly too much, but that doesn't get us far towards balancing a budget.) Now there is: the American Physical Society price schedule. On that basis , the maximum acceptable price increase is : zero%, and publishers should be judged on the basis of how much they decrease the prices each year. Conceivably there may be some reason for an exception, but anything above that value needs special justification, because all factors of general and academic inflation (not to mention OA) affect the APS as well. Where we can certainly agree, is that the publishers ultimate rate of return is not a key factor--this is affected by many intermediate steps both in nonprofit and profit making organizations, such as taxation , borrowing, and the allocation of overhead. This is the publisher's concern with respect to its own stockholders or society members. What concerns libraries ought rather to be the price asked. If a publisher can work so efficiently as to be able to reduce prices and still make a good profit, that profit should not lower them in our estimation. Dr. David Goodman Associate Professor Palmer School of Library and Information Science Long Island University dgoodman@liu.edu ________________________________ From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Mcsean, Tony (ELS) Sent: Tue 2/8/2005 11:47 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: RE: Librarians, Publishing Behavior, & Open Access The corporation providing the quotation in Bill's contribution may well be Elsevier, and I feel that it's worth pointing out that earnings per share (EPS) are pretty well independent of pricing policy. We can all point to examples where a company's financial performance has suffered through high price increases and others where the same thing has happened through low price increases. EPS targets hang on strength of product line, costs, new products, acquisitions and de-mergers - just to name a few factors not involving accountancy. Happily, the mention of double-digit price rises can't be Elsevier, since five years ago we pledged ourselves to increases which were both single digit and at the bottom end of the industry range. In 2005 this translated to an overall increase of 5.5%, with continuing profitability sustained (we trust!) by these other means. As you can imagine, I have a particularly personal stake in the idea that some in our profession are trying to work with the for-profit industry. Tony Tony McSean Director of Library Relations Elsevier +44 7795 960516 +44 1865 843630
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