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What Elsevier really said to the select committee
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- From: "Mcsean, Tony (ELS)" <T.Mcsean@elsevier.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:37:18 EST
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Jan makes two assertions about Elsevier which are factually incorrect. Elsevier did not tell the UK parliamentary select committee that industry subscriptions to STM publications amounted to 30% of the total. On page 9 of our written evidence, available at <http://www.elsevier.com/authored_news/corporate/images/UK_STC_FINAL_SUBMISSI ON.pdf>, we refer to an estimate that corporate organisations may currently account for "around 20% of annual global STM journal spending" and that under an author-pays OA model they would pay 10% of their current costs. The 20% figure is an approximation based on SIMBA data <www.simbanet.com> relating to institutional subscriptions to STM journals. (Incidentally, using BMC's current prices, the figure would fall from 10% to between 4.3% and 1.6%.) To say that we "failed to substantiate figures" is incorrect. We were scrupulous in providing all of the information requested by the Select Committee. I don't wish to labour the point. But in view of the seriousness of the allegation - that Elsevier lied to a parliamentary working party - I thought it important to put the facts on record. Tony Tony McSe�n Director of Library Relations Elsevier +44 7795 960516 +44 1865 843630 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of JOHANNES VELTEROP Sent: 05 January 2005 23:35 To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: Calculating the Cost per Article in the Current Subscription Model Don King recently presented figures (Cologne, Dec 6, 2004, download his presentation here: http://www.zbmed.de/summit/PPking.pdf) that indicate that, at least in the US, 7% of university research funding comes from industry. When looking at his own university, the University of Pittsburgh, he observed that industry was the source of 25% of "funds leading to articles". In a production-based funding model for publications, these would be the proportions of industry's financial contribution. Isn't there the possibility that the issue of industry 'free-riding' is a smokescreen put up by those who would benefit from keeping open access publishing models at bay? The aggregate proportion of industry funding of *research* publications through subscriptions I estimate to be below 5% (though it is likely to vary by discipline). I am aware that Elsevier testified in the UK Parliamentary inquiry that it was 30%, but apparently when challenged afterwards to substantiate that figure, they couldn't or wouldn't. It is in any event likely that they included in their figure *all* revenue from industry, such as licence deals with MDL, other databases, books, reference works, review journals, none of which which are, of course, the subject of Open Access. I'm ready to be corrected on the figure of 5%, if with auditable data. Jan Velterop Happy New Year to you all!
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