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Money for OA; was, RE: fascinating question
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- From: "David Goodman" <David.Goodman@liu.edu>
- Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:18:24 EST
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I merely add to Sally's note that although it is important to determine the access to funds now, it is yet more important to make provision for an increased supply in the future. This is in a sense a mutual dependency: we are more likely to get increased funds for author-paid OA journals when there is a substantial quantity of important OA journals, and we are more likely to be able to convert major journals to OA if the funds are available to pay for the articles. This stalemate is one of the reasons for the slow progress. As a librarian, I am of course concerned with whether some portion of library funds will be diverted to this purpose. It seems reasonable to me that they should be. Just as an example, if all of the Elsevier titles were to become paid-on-behalf-of-the-author OA. there is no reason that the library should need the million dollars or so to subscribe to Science Direct, It's not as if we got to keep the money--we are merely the intermediaries in transferring it from the university to the publisher. I have suggested similar on this list previously, to general ridicule. (http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/ListArchives/0404/msg00057.html) Having seen many truly absurd proposals in the interim, I again propose that in order to accomplish OA, the subscription money saved for each journal that becomes OA be divided in half. One half should go to partially support author fees--administered by anyone other than the librarians--; the remaining half should be used to buy books. (The remainder of the author fees should be grant and university funds-- they might not be able to pay the whole cost, but they probably could pay part, and subsidize authors in fields that do not get significant grants but still need money to publish.) The university saves on money for the library. The library saves on money for the publishers. The publishers get to sell books to the library. The authors find their publication supported. The readers get access to all journals. Dr. David Goodman Associate Professor Palmer School of Library and Information Science Long Island University dgoodman@liu.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Sally Morris (ALPSP) Sent: Thu 12/23/2004 11:44 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: Fascinating quotation I tend to agree with David that OA could - in principle - appeal to many publishers, as it satisfies their and their authors' aim of reaching the maximum target readership. However, there are some big questions to be answered: What does the publication (or submission + publication) charge need to be, for the journal to remain viable and to satisfy whatever the profit/surplus needs of the parent organisation may be? Do authors have access to sufficient funds to cover that charge? Only if the answer to the second question is yes, will OA succeed. If the answer is no, it will destroy journals (and potentially, societies too - unlike commercial publishers, they don't have the option to get out and do something different) That is why we are carrying out our major research project (with AAAS and HighWire) to try to obtain some concrete information, which is singularly lacking at present Sally Morris, Chief Executive Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers E-mail: chief-exec@alpsp.org
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