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RE: Versions
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- Subject: RE: Versions
- From: "David Goodman" <David.Goodman@liu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 21:55:19 EDT
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Heather explains very well why "self-archiving" is deliberately designed as a temporary measure. It serves the practical purpose of getting some useful version of a paper available to every potential reader. I do not think its advocates have ever suggested it as a method for permanent publication. As I understand them, they always say that not just peer-review and version control, but permanent access is guaranteed for "green" journals by the conventional publisher, not by the archive or the author, and that provisions for these matters is not part of the proposed system--only current access (now also being called supplementary access). Certainly archives of very high quality in all these respects could be designed, but they would be more elaborate, costly, and harder to implement than the needed supplementary access--perhaps very close to Open access journals. As an aside, some of the examples in Heather's argument have resulted in warfare. Others may just be wasted effort: it is appropriate to study the growth of Darwin's ideas in the successive editions of his books, but this cannot be said for every scientific paper. I also note one type of appropriate change in archived material: when non-persistent links change, most careful authors will (or at least should) want to update them , at least in a note.) Will authors be tempted to correct material that turns out from later work to be erroneous? I would think it appropriate to place such comments in a appended note, but I suspect some people will change the text. I even think some authors who disagree with a referee's enforced change, or prefer their style to the editor's, will change it right back again when they can. Some adocates of "self-archiving" disagree with me on the importance of these considerations; I think we all agree about the need to make use of what techniques and systems are currently available. Dr. David Goodman dgoodman@liu.edu -----Original Message----- From: owner-liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu on behalf of Heather Morrison Sent: Mon 6/21/2004 10:02 PM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: Versions On 19-Jun-04, at 6:09 AM, Anthony Watkinson wrote: > It may seem that I am trying to score points off OA protagonists but I > do think there is a question here which is not actually an OA/anti OA > question. If anyone is interested in problems of authenticity see > www.bic.org.uk/securing%20authenticity.pdf > > Anthony I would agree with Anthony that the issue of different versions, while relevant to OA, is not particularly an OA question. There have been different versions of works since ancient history, which has led to some interesting discussions and controversies. There are differences in translation of the Bible and other religious works, for example. Revised editions of published works, and slightly different editions of the same work, have been around for some time. What is different now is not really OA, but rather the flexibility of the electronic medium. The different versions problem is one that applies to individual and organizations in our daily work. When we're working on a business document, for example, it may go through many different iterations, and it can be a challenge to ensure that we correctly identify the final one, particularly if this is one that is approved by our organization or committee. This might be an issue for the self-archiving author; when choosing a preprint for posting, some authors will have multiple drafts to select from, and it would be a bit surprising if the wrong draft was never, ever chosen. There are occasions where multiple versions are clearly beneficial, and the electronic medium facilitiates this. A pdf version for those who like pretty printed pages, a text version for those who are visually impaired or have difficulty downloading large files, an html version to allow for easy following of links - or, like PLOS, the scientific version and the layman version, nicely tied together. Another potential future possibility - I haven't seen this happen yet, although perhaps others might have - is that authors could update their works after publishing. In some cases, there may have been advances since the time the article was submitted for publication. While authors might not wish to continually update their articles, in the situation where they need to do their own editing before posting to an institutional archive, perhaps it might be tempting to update at the same time? If the author is knowledgable and their work does not need much editing, such a version might well be superior to the peer-reviewed published version. Multiple versions is only a serious issue where peer review has indicated either substantive changes (as in, an error in mathematics has been detected leading to some change in reporting of results), or where linguistic editing is essential to avoid misinterpretation (as in, the author meant to say NEVER amputate but unfortunately left off the word NEVER by mistake). If the peer review and editing process is considered to be important, then it is important for authors and publishers to ensure that the final, edited work is the one that is published (with perhaps a link to more up to date information, if warranted). The safest way to ensure this is if publishers provide the final, printable copy to the author for self-archiving in institutional or disciplinary repositories. Otherwise, even the author who is willing to self-edit and has the best of intentions, could easily make a mistake in copying the edits. cheers, Heather G. Morrison
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