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Re: Evaluation and open access & timing
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- From: "Anthony Watkinson" <anthony.watkinson@btopenworld.com>
- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:15:52 EDT
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I entirely agree with Heather in one respect. We cannot expect immediate results. However it does seem that it is reasonable to ask for a "plan". Let me give an example of what I mean. The high profile journals in OA are the two PLOS journals, which promise to be of very high quality. They offer (as far as I can tell) the same service that normal subscription-based journals offer including all those editorial services (usually incorrectly called "copy-editing") as well as the sort of peer-review process which allows for many revisions. These services are not offered by most OA journals that I know of. According to Dr. Varmus, PLOS Biology is due to break even in two years time. What does this mean? Does it mean that the model is a sound and sustainable one? I have been responsible for starting quite a number of journals in my time in publishing. I have worked for four publishing companies one of which was non-profit and have consulted with a number of others so I think I can speak authoritatively in what follows. When a journal is proposed by an editor, a business plan has to be formulated as part of the proposal to management. The business plan projects costs and income over five to seven years. It is partly based on experience and partly on market research. No journal is accepted by management unless it is projected that the money invested is recovered. The journal may break even (as projected) in a few years in the sense that the costs in that year are balanced and exceeded in the year in question.. I believe three years is aimed for usually. However for the project to be accepted the money spent on the journal in the years before it breaks even and the notional interest incurred has to be recovered before the journal is seen as moving into viability. A lot of money is spent on launching a new journal. It takes longer to recover this investment. In the case of PLOS I would be amazed if the very large sum - was it $9m? - received from the Moore Foundation is being recovered. This funding represents what is for a normal publisher (for-profit or non-profit) the equivalent of the investment from central funds. I wonder also if the large editorial forces, the worthy and indeed excellent people employed by PLOS, are allocated to the journal. If you have only one product or now two one would expect quite a number of them to be allocated to these products especially as the number of names fronting advocacy of (marketing of) these two journals seems to be impressively large. As Heather points out we need to look five years down the line. PLOS have ambitious plans. How are they to be funded when the money from the Foundation runs out? Are they expecting to get more grants from well-wishers? If not money will have to come from a surplus on the existing two journals. What level of surplus are we aiming for. Of course the surplus will be needed for other purposes. A prestige journal cannot afford to lag behind the competition. Publishers are currently faced by a constant need to enhance their offering in order that they do not lose their authors and their users. There is no reason to suppose this annual need to upgrade will somehow plateau. As we know the number of learned bodies doing experiments with OA worldwide is minimal and the number of learned bodies totally committed to OA funding is minute. If they do not have a sustainable model, a plan which looks sensible and which can stand scrutiny, it is unlikel that the number will grow. I know that a number of advocates of OA say that it does not matter whether or not you have a plan. The argument I have heard from good friends. whose posting I expect almost instantaneously, is that a full scenario is not needed. It will all work out for the best if we get rid of the current system. It is however my impression (backed up by what evidence there is) that the great majority of academics do not want to get rid of the current system and they are suspicious of the OA system. Those engaged in starting new journals and those who might wish to convert existing journals are not (usually) going to wish to invest their time in a model which does not have evidence of its sustainability and (more important) is not backed up by a sound business plan. Academics know about business plans in my experience. I am writing in my individual capacity as a publishing consultant and not on behalf of my various paymasters. Anthony Watkinson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Morrison" <heatherm@eln.bc.ca> To: <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Evaluation and open access & timing > There appears to be a trend towards evaluation of open access > publications, which is, of course, welcome and necessary. It is very > encouraging to see early indications that open access journals and > articles have good impact, which only makes sense. > > While evaluation is essential, I would suggest that timing can be a > critical factor in evaluation, from either a scientific or business > viewpoint. > > When conducting a scientific study, evaluation of results does not > conclude until the effects of what one is studying take place. For > example, in a pharmaceutical study, one might evaluate impact of a new > drug shortly after starting a treatment session, but if you anticipate > that it might take a month for the drug to take effect, you do not draw > any conclusions until measurements are taken after this time. > > New businesses generally take some time to become profitable. Imagine > what would happen to the restaurant business, for example (which already > has a very high failure rate), if bankers formed their conclusions about > profitability two weeks after opening. [SNIP] > Shifting to open access involves inventing and implementing new ways of > publishing, as well as authors and others changing the way we do things. > This takes time. The proper time to begin evaluating open access journals > will be in about 5 years time or so. Until then, some preliminary > evaluation - to adjust models, that sort of thing - is appropriate. > Conclusions, however, are not. > > As always, this is purely my personal opinion as a professional librarian, > not an official position of ELN. > > Heather G. Morrison > Email: heatherm@eln.bc.ca
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