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RE: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide
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- Subject: RE: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide
- From: "David Goodman" <David.Goodman@liu.edu>
- Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 20:07:11 EST
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There are some other factors that Sally didn't get to mention. For direct costs, even among journals of the same publisher, the quality of production and copy editing may vary; some smaller journals simply distribute camera-ready copy supplied by the editor; some devote more or less care to the less likely manuscripts; some do the reviewing at least in part in common for several journals of a family (Nature comes to mind). For indirect costs, once we get beyond the basic point that some of the figures don't even include them, some maintain more or less elaborate office facilities in more or less prestigious locations, some maintain extensive sales staff and have extensive advertising costs, some make larger presences at more conventions, some are international organizations with higher communication and transportation costs, some are part of much larger organizations that have an overhead layer of its own. On what may be seen as a more positive note, some costs include fully funded provision for archiving, like the APS, but many don't. Some costs include systems development, while other use service providers. Some include research and development benefitting the whole profession; some don't. And, as Sally understandably may not want to say, some publishers do the basic publishing better and more efficiently, and some run their auxiliary operations in a more cost-effective way. (Yes, the analogous comment certainly also holds for universities and their libraries. ) Dr. David Goodman Associate Professor Palmer School of Library and Information Science Long Island University dgoodman@liu.edu -----Original Message----- From: Sally Morris (ALPSP) [mailto:chief-exec@alpsp.org] Sent: Sat 3/6/2004 7:38 AM To: alpsp-discuss@mailbase.org.uk; 'Liblicense'; 'SOAF' Subject: Re: Clarification on misquotation of figure from OSI Guide We have to be careful not to confuse revenue per article (which is what these figures from Blackwell and Nature represent) and cost per article. The cost will, of course, vary widely - some publishers' processes may be more efficient than others', though I doubt the difference is vast; some do more work on articles than others; some add more features to their journals over and above primary research articles; some process many more articles per published article than others (Nature is an extreme example). There are various attempts to analyse these costs, some already published and others ongoing. Some of these studies include overheads, others don't, which also leads to confusion; but overheads cannot be ignored when looking at the costs which have to be recovered through one model or another. The difference between the costs and the revenue is the profit (politely called surplus in the case of not-for-profit - more accurately described as non-profit-distributing - publishers). Some of this is reinvested into the business - again, the amount reinvested varies, but the infrastructure for e-journals takes up a significant percentage, as last Monday's transcript reveals; some of it (in the case of commercial publishers) is paid in tax; and some is redistributed to shareholders (for commercial publishers) or used in support of the charitable purpose of the organisation (in the case of NFPs - hence the tax exemption). Let's be sure we are comparing apples with apples! Sally Morris, Chief Executive Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers E-mail: chief-exec@alpsp.org
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