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RE: IP industry control of use
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- Subject: RE: IP industry control of use
- From: J.F.Rowland@lboro.ac.uk
- Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:15:07 EDT
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In all these arguments it is crucially important to distinguish between scholarly publications -- where the author gets paid nothing by the publisher -- and other kinds of publication where, as Rick says, authors earn their living from their copyrights. Stevan Harnad has repeatedly made this point. When growing up, I could only eat because of copyright -- my father was a freelance writer. But now, as an academic author, I get no money from publishers for the transfer of my copyrights, so I think the publishers should get value for what they pay! Fytton Rowland. Quoting Rick Anderson <rickand@unr.edu>: >>Common and accepted practices >>regarding individual and institutional use of intellectual property are >>being turned into a per use/per device toll road > >Personally, I'm a big fan of toll roads. Only the people who use them get >charged, and the more they use them, the more they pay. It's much fairer >than taking that money out of the paycheck of someone who can't afford a >car. But I digress... > >>What a strange way to negate copyright >>laws. You bought it--it isn't yours because i've hidden a license >inside. > >That's kind of like saying that employment contracts are a strange way to >negate the right of free assembly. I may have a constitutional right to >stand on the sidewalk with my friends and talk about politics, but I also >have right to sign a contract saying I'll show up for work at 8:00 in the >morning on Monday, and thus voluntarily limit my right to do other >things at that time. > >But that's another digression, because the problem with shrinkwrap >licenses is mutuality. Until UCITA passes in Nevada, I'm not taking >most shrinkwrap licenses very seriously. I'm no lawyer, but as I >understand it, if the contract isn't mutual it's not a contract. You can >put a shrinkwrap license in there if you want, but I'm not under any >obligation to adhere to it. > >The IP industry has not shirked at wild and overblown scare tactics and >statements. There is no reason they shouldn't get a bit of their >own tactics back. > >Actually, there's a very good reason: this conversation needs grownups. >Wild and overblown scare tactics are stupid no matter who they come from, >and they don't solve the problems, which are real (on both sides). It's >stupid to cast librarians as moustache-twirling copyright guerillas, and >it's also stupid to cast owners of intellectual property as venal, >money-grubbing copyright fascists (though both characterizations may be >accurate in certain cases). Publishers are not wrong to be worried that >the new information environment presents a threat to the integrity of >their copyrights; librarians are not wrong to worry that pending >legislation presents a threat to the legitimate sharing of copyrighted >information. But nobody outside the library profession wants to hear what >librarians think about this conflict because talking to librarians about >copyright is too often like talking to Rush Limbaugh about welfare. > >If anything the library and user community has been too quiescent in the >face of the aggressive behavior of the IP industry and its well placed >lobbyists. A really "cute" argument that they've repeated: "we have to >eat too". SNIP > Rick Anderson
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