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Re: public libraries and licenses
- To: <jgaisford@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
- Subject: Re: public libraries and licenses
- From: "Heather Morrison" <hmorrison@thealbertalibrary.ab.ca>
- Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:08:50 EDT
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Hi Janet! At The Alberta Library we license databases for public libraries, as well as academic and special libraries. The situation you describe where vendors are very concerned about loss of business through public library access is very common. Remote access, in particular, tends to be a concern. One recent example: at the moment we are working with a company called Alldata on a license for their automotives database. Remote access through the public library could result in major losses from their main business which is auto shops. In this case, remote access simply is not a possibility, and the issue for libraries is whether to consider offering onsite access only, or not to offer any access at all. From my personal point of view, this is not that much different from having reference books that can't be taken out of the library. Also, there are advantages to getting people to actually go to the library. Especially the people likely to use this database - this touches on a demographic group not noted for their library use, and getting them in the door could increase public library support in the long run. Alldata is not at all concerned about onsite public library use - if an auto shop pays once or twice for a mechanic to go to the public library to look something up, they'll soon decide to pay for their own subscription. Another example you may be familiar with is Electric Library Canada, which has had two types of concern with remote access (that I know of). First, they have cited problems with public libraries making databases available to schools. Since schools are the main focus of their business, and where they expect to make about 90% of their revenue, this was a real concern to the company. This resulted in considerable discussion last year regarding their license agreement, which they changed to make sure it was understood that public library access could not be used to substitute for subscriptions of other institutions. More recently, they have had to restrict access to the Southam newspapers to onsite use only for public libraries, because Southam was concerned about loss of revenue from their relationship with Infomart (which picks up quite a bit of revenue from corporate and special library customers) due to remote access. So, if you subscribe to ELC for both onsite and remote use, the content is not the same on the remote version. Many vendors are happy with remote access provided it is restricted to the library's own clientele (e.g. persons within a given geographic reason), and for research, educational, or personal use only. This means that public libraries need to know that corporate cards, community borrowers from outside the area, etc., are not eligible for remote access to databases, generally, and that they do have an obligation to educate their users about this. I have heard that there is a viewpoint within the public library community that a public library subscription should truly cover everyone in the community, including academic institutions and corporations. Alas, if only it were so. It would probably be possible to negotiate agreements to cover everyone in this way - but I'm not sure if there are public libraries with enough money in their budgets to cover such a license. With Alldata, for example, a public library license covering all automotive shops too would probably be negotiable - but the cost would be a discount from what Alldata would expect to make from all the auto shops in the area - not the public library subscription cost, which is already substantially lower than the corporate cost. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any specific questions or vendors in mind. Heather Morrison Licensing Coordinator The Alberta Library Rm 6-14, 7 Sir Winston Churchill Sqr Edmonton, AB T5J 2V5 Tel: (780) 414-0805 Fax: (780) 414-0806 Email: hmorrison@thealbertalibrary.ab.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Okerson" <ann.okerson@yale.edu> To: <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu> Cc: <jgaisford@tpl.toronto.on.ca> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 4:15 PM Subject: public libraries and licenses > We had an inquiry this morning from a librarian at Toronto Public Library > regarding licensing of databases for public library use. She noted that > some electronic information providers express concern about allowing > access from the public library to individuals who work for commercial > organizations, as this can cause revenue loss for the provider -- should > members of these firms use the public library in lieu of taking out their > own corporate license. > > If any of our liblicense-l readers are in public library settings, can you > reply to both Janet Gaisford (jgaisford@tpl.toronto.on.ca) and this list, > and let us know of your experience and how you handle these kinds of > situations? What type of service do you aim to provide, and if you > aim to exclude corporate users, how do you do this? > > Ann Okerson/Yale University > liblicense-l moderator
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