Re: Nature Journals: User Name and Password (Super ID Access)

[David Goodman <dgoodman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>]

I can reassure the publishers of Nature that other journals that have
permitted access without the sort of restriction they propose have not
lost large numbers of subscribers. I believe the rate I've been told is
that the attrition rate increases slightly, to about twice normal at most.

I can also reassure them, on the basis of talks with personal subscribers,
that people take out personal subscriptions because they want personal
copies to read. Not because they want electronic access--they expect the
library to arrange that. It's ironic that Nature, which is the one
publication that most scientists actually do read (in the conventional
sense), should be worried.

David Goodman, Princeton University Biology Library				
dgoodman@princeton.edu            609-258-3235
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Anthony Watkinson wrote:

> I agree with Kurt de Belder to the extent that I suspect strongly that
> Rick and John are correct in not seeing this as a rights question as far
> as Nature or, for that matter, Science are concerned but it always worries
> me when the word "profit" is used in what appears to be a pejorative
> sense. Would not the word "profit-or-loss" be a better term? As I
> understand it (and in my experience when I had intellectual property
> responsibility for some of the Current Opinion journals) the big concern
> for any publisher responsible for a journal with a significant number of
> individual subscribers is whether they will lose a lot of them should the
> library these subscribers use have an electronic licence to the complete
> journal. Perhaps Mr de Belder has inside knowledge of Macmillan strategy
> but I would be very surprised if the policy concerned was aimed at
> increasing individual subscribers. More likely it was an attempt to hold
> on to them.
> 
> Anthony Watkinson
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kurt de Belder <kbelder@uba.uva.nl>
> To: <liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:09 AM
> Subject: RE: Nature Journals: User Name and Password (Super ID Access)
> 
> > I need to disagree with the comments of both Rick Anderson and John Cox.
> > The new Nature license states that certain portions in the magazine will
> > only become available electronically to institutional subscribers after a
> > 12 issue delay.  This is not a question of not having the rights to make
> > these items available electronically.  It is a profit question.  For the
> > past year, Nature has published every week the complete magazine
> > electronically and has made it available to a number of institutional
> > subscribers on a trial basis.  It also took the publisher MacMillan more
> > than a year to design a license and a pricing strategy.  This month it
> > became clear that their strategy is clearly focused on expanding the
> > number of individual subscriptions to the electronic (and print) version
> > of the magazine, while also trying to maintain the institutional
> > subscription base.  In other words: if a reader wants the most recent and
> > important articles from Nature she will not be able to find it in a
> > library or through an institutional subscription, but the reader will need
> > to buy her own subscription.  Although our users at the University of
> > Amsterdam have been enthusiastic for the past year about the electronic
> > COMPLETE version of Nature, this University Library will not sign an
> > institutional license that only grants our readers access to information
> > with a delay of three months.
> >
> > Kurt De Belder
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > Kurt De Belder
> > Chief, Division of Electronic Services