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RE: What is wrong with this picture?
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- From: Kathy Johnson <kjohnson@library.caltech.edu>
- Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:27:05 EDT
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1. Contrary to what publishers might want or think, we don't usually throw copyright violators in jail in the U.S. We just fine them to death - $250 per incident is the standard fine, and it can add up pretty quickly - at least, that's what my understanding is from a discussion we had just last week with our intellectual property rights lawyer. 2. "Protecting authors" is just an excuse for the publishers. What they're really protecting is their short-term revenue stream. Katherine Johnson Head, Technical Services Caltech Library System Millikan Library 1-32 California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA 91125 Tel: (626) 395-6065 Fax: (626) 792-7540 kjohnson@library.caltech.edu -----Original Message----- From: Ann Okerson [mailto:aokerson@pantheon.yale.edu] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 11:34 AM To: liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: What is wrong with this picture? Peter McKay of Derwent publications sends the following message: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From peter.mckay@derwent.co.uk Mon Jun 19 04:20:28 2000 From: "McKay, Peter" <peter.mckay@derwent.co.uk> To: "'Stevan Harnad'" <harnad@coglit.ecs.soton.ac.uk>, september98-forum@amsci-forum.amsci.org Cc: Elib List EJ <lis-elib@mailbase.ac.uk>, Lib Serials list <serialst@LIST.UVM.EDU>, VPIEJ-L@LISTSERV.VT.EDU, liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: Re: What is wrong with this picture? (Refereed Journal Publishing) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:10:02 +0100 It strikes me that what is wrong with this picture is twofold. One the undergraduate is breaking the law and should be put in jail. Two, the university system is clearly not allocating enough rescues to its information needs. Peter McKay -----Original Message----- From: Stevan Harnad [mailto:harnad@coglit.ecs.soton.ac.uk] Sent: 18 June 2000 11:15 To: september98-forum@amsci-forum.amsci.org Cc: Elib List EJ; Lib Serials list; VPIEJ-L@LISTSERV.VT.EDU; liblicense-l@lists.yale.edu Subject: What is wrong with this picture? (Refereed Journal Publishing) [The following concerns refereed research report publication.] What is wrong with the following picture? (1) A brand-new PhD recipient proudly tells his mother he has just published his first article. She asks him how much he was paid for it. He makes a face and tells her "nothing," and then begins a long complicated explanation. (2) A fellow-researcher at that same university sees a reference to that same article. He goes to their library to get it: It's not subscribed to here; can't afford that journal; subscription budget already overspent. (3) An undergraduate, same university, sees the same article cited on the Web; clicks on it. The publisher's website demands a password: only paid subscribing institutions can have access. (4) The undergraduate loses patience, gets bored, and clicks on napster to grab an MP3 file of his favorite bootleg music CD to console him in his sorrows. (5) Years later, the same PhD is being considered for tenure; his publications are good, but they're not cited enough; they have not made enough of a research impact. Tenure denied. (6) Same thing happens when he tries to get a research grant: his research findings have not had enough of an impact: not enough researchers have read and cited them. (7) He decides to write a book instead. Publisher declines to publish it: It wouldn't sell enough copies because not enough universities have enough money to pay for it -- their purchasing budgets are tied up paying for their inflating annual journal subscription costs. (8) He tries to put his articles up on the Web, free for all, to increase their impact; his publisher threatens to sue him for violation of copyright. (9) He asks his publisher who the copyright is intended to protect. (10) His publisher replies: You! What is wrong with this picture? (And why is the mother of the PhD whose give-away work people cannot steal, even though he wants them to, in the same boat as the mother of the recording artist whose non-give-away work they can and do steal, even though he does not want them to?) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stevan Harnad harnad@cogsci.soton.ac.uk
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