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Re: Library Support of Scholarly Publishing?
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- From: Pete Goldie <pg@lbin.com>
- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:40:44 EDT
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Keith, Just a single point on a scatter plot, Keith? Do not trivialize your contribution, for a single point of properly identified REAL DATA speaks louder than the generalizations and assumptions that clog up this discussion! Does anyone else have some REAL DATA to share? Pete Goldie ___ At 05:48 PM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote: > >I would be happy to respond to Bernie Sloan's query on behalf of the >American Meteorological Society, which represents an example of a >moderate-sized (11,700 members) nonprofit society. We publish our full >budget in some detail every year, and you can get the complete financial >picture of the AMS in the following reference: Bulletin of the American >Meteorological Society, 1999, volume 80, issue 6 (June), pages 1269-1276. > >I will summarize the information from our 1998 budget to respond to >Bernie's questions. > >The total budget for the AMS was $7,211,416 (for simplicity I will round to >the nearest thousand and use the "K" suffix, such as $7,211K). > >As a scientific and professional society, we administer a number services >in addition to journals for our members and the broader atmospheric and >related sciences community (meetings, member publications such as our >Bulletin, books, etc.). Thus, our journals activity represents only a >little over half of our total budget. > >We publish seven scholarly journals that had a total page count in 1998 >just shy of 17,000 pages. Here is the way the income from our journals >activity breaks down: > > Subscriptions $2,031K > Page charges $1,864K > Reprints $ 85K > Back issue sales $ 83K > > Total $4,063K > >Of the subscription revenue, 85% is from institutional subscribers and 15% >is from AMS member subscriptions. (Just under $58K of the subscription >revenue represents income from our journals online, which were introduced >in 1998, and that amount is split almost evenly between members and >institutions. Not a big percentage of the total for 1998, but one we >expect to see grow.) To add some additional context to these numbers, I >should point out that our institutional subscriber base is not large for >any of our journals, ranging from just under 400 to just over 1000, with a >mean close to 800 institutional subscribers. Also, our seven journals >vary significantly in size, but the average subscription price to >institutions is just under $0.15/page. > >So, the direct answer to Bernie's question is that for the AMS about 42% >of the total income derived from our journals comes from institutional >subscriptions. (This is about 24% of our overall total income, but I don't >think that was really what was being sought.) > >I realize this data represents a single point on a very big scatterplot, >but I hope it is helpful. > >Keith Seitter > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Dr. Keith L. Seitter phone: 617-227-2426 ext. 220 >Deputy Executive Director fax: 617-742-8718 >American Meteorological Society e-mail: kseitter@ametsoc.org >45 Beacon Street >Boston, MA 02108-3693 http://www.ametsoc.org/AMS >---------------------------------------------------------------- *********************** * Pete Goldie, Ph.D. * President * Lightbinders, Inc. * 2325 Third Street - Suite 324 * San Francisco, CA 94107 ******************************************** * Internet: pg@lbin.com http://lbin.com ************************************************* * Voice: 415-621-5746 Fax: 415-621-5898 ************************************************* --=====================_23208361==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> <br> <font size=3>Keith,<br> <br> Just a single point on a scatter plot, Keith? Do not trivialize your contribution, for a single point of properly identified REAL DATA speaks louder than the generalizations and assumptions that clog up this discussion!<br> <br> Does anyone else have some REAL DATA to share?<br> <br> Pete Goldie<br> <br> <br> At 05:48 PM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote:<br> ><br> >I would be happy to respond to Bernie Sloan's query on behalf of the<br> >American Meteorological Society, which represents an example of a<br> >moderate-sized (11,700 members) nonprofit society. We publish our full<br> >budget in some detail every year, and you can get the complete financial<br> >picture of the AMS in the following reference: Bulletin of the American<br> >Meteorological Society, 1999, volume 80, issue 6 (June), pages 1269-1276.<br> ><br> >I will summarize the information from our 1998 budget to respond to<br> >Bernie's questions.<br> ><br> >The total budget for the AMS was $7,211,416 (for simplicity I will round to<br> >the nearest thousand and use the "K" suffix, such as $7,211K).<br> ><br> >As a scientific and professional society, we administer a number services<br> >in addition to journals for our members and the broader atmospheric and<br> >related sciences community (meetings, member publications such as our<br> >Bulletin, books, etc.). Thus, our journals activity represents only a<br> >little over half of our total budget.<br> ><br> >We publish seven scholarly journals that had a total page count in 1998<br> >just shy of 17,000 pages. Here is the way the income from our journals<br> >activity breaks down:<br> ><br> > Subscriptions $2,031K<br> > Page charges $1,864K<br> > Reprints $ 85K<br> > Back issue sales $ 83K<br> > <br> > Total $4,063K<br> ><br> >Of the subscription revenue, 85% is from institutional subscribers and 15%<br> >is from AMS member subscriptions. (Just under $58K of the subscription<br> >revenue represents income from our journals online, which were introduced<br> >in 1998, and that amount is split almost evenly between members and<br> >institutions. Not a big percentage of the total for 1998, but one we<br> >expect to see grow.) To add some additional context to these numbers, I<br> >should point out that our institutional subscriber base is not large for<br> >any of our journals, ranging from just under 400 to just over 1000, with a<br> >mean close to 800 institutional subscribers. Also, our seven journals<br> >vary significantly in size, but the average subscription price to<br> >institutions is just under $0.15/page.<br> ><br> >So, the direct answer to Bernie's question is that for the AMS about 42%<br> >of the total income derived from our journals comes from institutional<br> >subscriptions. (This is about 24% of our overall total income, but I don't<br> >think that was really what was being sought.)<br> ><br> >I realize this data represents a single point on a very big scatterplot,<br> >but I hope it is helpful.<br> ><br> >Keith Seitter<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> >At 04:23 PM 8/10/99 EDT, you wrote:<br> >><br> >>I'm looking for examples of the percentage of scholary publishers' income<br> >>that is derived from library subscriptions. For example, X percent of<br> >>publisher Y's income comes from subscription fees paid by libraries. The<br> >>figures can include paper and/or electronic publishing.<br> >><br> >>Does anyone have any examples, or can someone steer me to a good source?<br> >><br> >>Thanks!<br> >><br> >>Bernie Sloan<br> >>Senior Library Information Systems Consultant<br> >>University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting<br> >>338 Henry Administration Building<br> >>506 S. Wright Street<br> >>Urbana, IL 61801<br> >>Phone: (217) 333-4895<br> >>Fax: (217) 333-6355<br> >>E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu<br> >><br> >><br> >><br> ><br> >----------------------------------------------------------------<br> >Dr. Keith L. Seitter phone: 617-227-2426 ext. 220<br> >Deputy Executive Director fax: 617-742-8718<br> >American Meteorological Society e-mail: kseitter@ametsoc.org<br> >45 Beacon Street<br> >Boston, MA 02108-3693 <a href="http://www.ametsoc.org/AMS" eudora="autourl">http://www.ametsoc.org/AMS</a><br> >----------------------------------------------------------------<br> </font><br> <br> <br> <br> <div>***********************</div> <div>* Pete Goldie, Ph.D.</div> <div>* President </div> <div>* Lightbinders, Inc. </div> <div>* 2325 Third Street - Suite 324 </div> <div>* San Francisco, CA 94107 </div> <div>********************************************</div> <div>* Internet: pg@lbin.com <a href="http://lbin.com/" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://lbin.com</a></div> <div>*************************************************</div> <div>* Voice: 415-621-5746 Fax: 415-621-5898</div> <div>*************************************************</div> </html> --=====================_23208361==_.ALT--
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