Re: The House of Cards

[Stevan Harnad <harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk>]

I kept resisting the posting of a message that amounts to "nyah, 
nyah" but this is too rich: 25 Green OA self-archiving mandates 
by funders worldwide, including NIH, 6/7 of RCUK and ERC, and 25 
institutional mandates, including Harvard, Stanford and CERN, and 
Joe and Jan think the future of green is bleak?

Chrs, S

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Jan Szczepanski wrote:

> I really share Joe Espositos view about the green future. It's a
> bleak one. But he forgets the golden road. Thousands of new free
> e-journals every year. 100% OA Commercial journals are out. More
> than 50% of new e-journals are free journals. It's really old
> fashioned with a price tag connected to important reading.
>
> Jan
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>> Stevan Harnad wrote:
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>> But the trouble is that apart from astrophysics and high energy
>> physics, no other field has anywhere near 100% OA: It's closer
>> to 15% in other fields. So apart from a global correlation
>> (between the growth of OA and the average length of the
>> reference list), the effect of OA cannot be very deeply
>> analyzed in most fields yet.
>>
>> ****
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>> JE:  Precisely:  it's too soon to make any judgments.
>> Therefore, there is also no reason to conclude that there is an
>> "open access advantage."
>>
>> Professor Harnad, like other OA activists, is watching as the OA house of
>> cards collapses.  The OA promise--more and better--is being replaced with
>> the reality.
>>
>> Joe Esposito
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