RE: FW: Sage Journals in EBSCOhost Databases

[David Goodman <dgoodman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>]

Bernie, if you are right, that would be even stranger:

a. If you are a long-time customer and started in 2000 or 2001 or earlier,
you don't get the journals;

b. If you happen to have joined only this year in 2002, you get them;

c. If you join next year, you dont get them.

On Sun, 8 Sep 2002,
Sloan, Bernie wrote:

> David,
>
> The way I read it, it isn't "content in 2003 to subscribers whose contract
> started earlier (which is of course almost all of their customers)."
>
> It looks like it would have been content in 2003 only for those subscribers
> whose contract STARTED in 2002. It doesn't look like a
> 2002-and-earlier-contract-date thing, but a start date of 2002 only.
>
> Bernie Sloan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Goodman [mailto:dgoodman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU]
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:32 AM
> To: Liblicense-L (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: FW: Sage Journals in EBSCOhost Databases
>
> I find this incredible. I did not respond earlier because it took me a few
> days to actually believe it. As I understand the matter, even though Sage
> has given them a license to provide the content in 2003 to subscribers
> whose contract started earlier (which is of course almost all of their
> customers) Ebsco refuses to supply it, presumably because Sage plans to
> remove the content after 2003.
>
> This sort of short-sighted bickering and gamesmanship is harmful to the
> users and to the reputation of both Sage's excellent journals, and Ebsco's
> excellent aggregator service. The cost is surely trivial, considering that
> Ebsco already produces many different subsets of its products.
>
>
> > From: owner-ebsco_web@epnet.com
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:07 AM
> > Subject: Sage Journals in EBSCOhost Databases
> >
> > Dear EBSCOhost Customers:
> >
> > After communication with representative customers and at the request of
> > Sage, we are pleased to inform you that we will be adding the Sage
> > content, which was removed in July 2002, back to Academic Search Elite
> > within the next few weeks.  This content will be available on the product
> > through the end of the calendar year and will then be removed at that
> > time.
> >
> > Our contract with Sage allows us to include Sage content in EBSCOhost(r)
> > Research Databases in 2003 for customers whose subscriptions started in
> > 2002.  However, we would need to create a second set of products that do
> > not include Sage content to fulfill subscriptions starting in 2003.
> > Rather than increasing production costs and adding confusion by creating a
> > second version of each of our many products during 2003 in order to
> > provide Sage full text to a subset of our customers, we have made the
> > decision to implement what we feel is a more practical solution of
> > replacing Sage journals with journals of appropriate quality in the
> > databases in 2003.  The additional titles added to Academic Search Elite
> > in July 2002 (as replacements for Sage titles), will remain in the
> > product.
> >
> > While no full text content from Sage owned journals will appear in any
> > EBSCOhost Research Databases in 2003, we are pleased to announce that
> > EBSCO plans to continue to provide abstracting and indexing for all Sage
> > journals currently included in EBSCO databases.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Scott Bernier
> > Communications Manager
> > EBSCO Publishing